Vol. XXXXI, No. 10 --- October 2004

CFMS Newsletter

Table of Contents
President's Message
Nov Directors Meeting
CFMS Insurance Report
CFMS Nominating Committee
Program Aids Report
All American Club Report
Jury of Awards Committee
Field Trip North Report
Field Trip South Report
Safety Report
Earth Science Seminar Update
FRA Merit Badge Program
Legisiative Report

Prez Message

By Lois Allmen, CFMS President

CFMS President

It is a pleasure to hear that our A#1 Insurance Agent Fred Ott has negotiated a change in the way our business is processed. Our requests will go directly to Pall McDaniel, Fred will act as our Consultant. The method we have been using actually had Fred working almost two full time jobs. This now puts the work load where it belongs. We sincerely hope that Fred will not he suffering from burnout and will stay on as our Insurance Consultant. He may be telling you more about it. Good work, Fred!

Hopefully the renovated Podium People booklet redone by Cheri George is in the hands of every Program Chair in every club. (YES?) If it isn't, your club is missing something. There are not only people listed who will put on a program for your club but there are also some very good ideas on where to look for programs around you. It you haven't seen the booklet, ask your CFMS Director about it. He/She should have received a copy for you in his/her Mariposa Convention packet. It may even he in your library. The pamphlet is well worth checking through.

We are sorry to hear that our CFMS Secretary, Eva Gmholtz, is having to move out of state. You are wished the hest. May you find another gem and mineral club close to your new home. You will he missed here.


The annual Fall Business meeting and election of officers for 2005 will be held at the Quality Inn at 4278 West Ashlan Avenue, Fresno, CA on Saturday, November 13, 2004.

The Cracker Barrel social will be held Friday night November 12, 2004 at 7:30 PM in the Banquet room behind the hotel. Coffee will be served. Directors, please bring cookies, fruit, or other healthy munchies. Societies A through M bring snacks to the Cracker Barrel on Friday evening and N through Z bring snacks to the Saturday Directors meeting.

The Business meeting will be held on Saturday, November 13 at 9:00 AM. Directors be sure to bring your copy of the Agenda you receive in the mail. Any CFMS members may attend the meeting and are encouraged to do so, but only delegates may vote.

Room reservations must be made directly with the Quality Inns at 4278 West Ashlan Avenue, Fresno. Phone 1-559-275-2727.

Be sure to tell them you are with CFMS in order to get special rates. Make reservations by Nov. 1, 2004. Our special rate is $62.00, plus tax per night for 2 persons, with additional charges for 3 or more. Take the Ashlan Avenue exit from Hwy 99 in Fresno. The Quality Inn is located on the west side of the freeway. QUALITY INNS ACCEPTS NO PETS.


Our Saturday Evening Banquet will begin at 6:00 PM with a no-host bar and Get-together. Dinner will be served at 7:00 PM.


Brooks Ranch green Salad Prime Rib or Chicken Marsala
Vegetable medley, garlic potatoes, bread and butter Cheese cake Coffee and Iced Tea

Cost is $22.50 per person (includes tax and tip) Make banquet reservations by Nov. 1, 2004. Mail your check with dinner choice reservation to: CFMS, P.O. BOX 1657, Rialto, CA 92377-1657


Committee Chairmen, please reserve time now for your committee meetings on Friday, Nov. 12 at the Quality Inn. Call or write Lois Allmen for reservations at: 407 Magnolia Ave., Oxnard, CA 93030-5309, (805) 483-6871, email allmenL@vcss.k12ca.us.

Tentative Schedule
Friday 2:00-4:00 PM Executive Committee
9:00-10:00 PM Scholarship Committee (following Cracker Barrel)


Deadline for committee reports for the November Directors meeting is October 25.

As in the past, I will accept them by e-mail or snail mail. If unable to meet this deadline, please bring at least 100 copies to the meeting for distribution. Thanks. Pat LaRue


By Patt McDaniel

Dear Federation Members,

As you know, Fred Ott has been working hard to keep the insurance program running smoothly for over four years. It is a tremendous amount of work for a volunteer and the Federation has asked McDaniel Insurance Services to take over servicing and allow Fred a well deserved break. Thank you, Fred, we have enjoyed working with you!

We appreciate the Federation for honoring us to carry on the servicing of your insurance account and working directly with the member clubs. It is quite a large task to set up the forms, systems and procedures needed to track and process all of the various needs of your organization. We are providing new forms and instructions that will he posted on the Federations website.

We are eager to work with you to get the procedures off to a good start. Some things have changed, so please review the information on the website well in advance of any anticipated need.

We know that in order to present you with a cost effective program, we need to establish efficient procedures in our office. Experience has shown us that last minute rush requests and corrections and reissues are the biggest interruptions of our efficient workflow procedures. Because of this, we are initiating fees for late applications and incorrect information that requires the revision of work already completed. We would be very happy if the whole year goes by without charging a single fee. So please, check the website three months before you think you will need anything. We hope to make the program better every year!

Your special assistant in our office for this program is Heidi, a very gracious, hard worker (and a bit of a rock enthusiast, herself). For insurance coverage questions, I will be glad to address your questions. We welcome your participation in the program and encourage you to join with us to make this an efficiently run program so that we can keep your costs at a minimum.

Effective immediately, all requests for the 10-16-2004 to 10-16-2005 policy period (Certificates of Insurance/Additional Insured Endorsements. Special Event Liability coverage and Premises Liability and/or Property Coverages) should be directed to our office. Attn: Heidi. using the current forms (10-04 revision date or later in the lower left corner).

Thank you! We look forward to working with you.

Patt McDaniel,
McDaniel Insurance Services
805-646-9948. Fax 805-646-9976, mcins@west.net


By Bill Gissler, Chair

At the November 13, 2004 General Meeting the following nominations will be presented for the CFMS officers for 2005.

President: President Elect Marion Roberts will assume the duties of President. Marion, who is a member of the Mother Lode Mineral Society, has served as First Vice President this year and Second Vice President in 2003. He is an instructor and actively involved in the Earth Science Seminars and in his own Club.

First Vice President: Colleen Mc Gann with the Peninsula Gem & Geology Society, has served as Second Vice President and two years as Secretary. She has been nominated by her Club to move up through the chairs to the position of First Vice President.

Second Vice President: Richard Pankey, has served as Treasurer for the past two years and been nominated by his Club, Contra Costa Mineral & Gem Society for the position of Second Vice President. Dick has been active as CFMS Field Trip North Chair, and in his Club.

Secretary: Bural La Rue, a Life Member of Valley Prospectors for over 15 years, has been nominated by the Conejo Gem & Mineral Club. He has served as an officer in the Valley Prospectors and the Orange Belt Mineralogical Society, and been on several CFMS Committees, having chaired the Nominating and the Scholarship committees. He has been an instructor at the Northern California Earth Science Seminars since the early 1990's.

Treasurer: As on September 7, no nominations have been received for this position.

If your club wishes to nominate a member to serve as Treasurer or in any of the elective offices First and Second Vice Presidents, and Secretary send the name of your nominee, home address, phone number, e-mail and qualifications to:

The Nominating Committee
c/o Bill Gissler, Chairman,
1075 Blossom Drive
Santa Clara, CA 95050-5163
(408) 241-0477
or e-mail: wgissler@juno.com


By Cheri George, CFMS Program Aids Chairman

Greetings from Program Aids! As we "FALL" into the last quarter of 2004 (holy cow!), I am reminded of the section in the Podium People BroxBrochuret says:

"Plan to share your records through your annual report to the CFMS Program Aids Chairman. This is easy if you have kept good records. The report can include picnics, installation dinners, etc., as well as formal programs. You will find the Annual Report form in the brochure on page xvii. Just use the form located there, or make a copy and fill it out and send it to the Program Aids Chairman."

Whether you are keeping your job or passing it along to some other deserving person, I am looking forward to receiving your Annual Report.


By Dot Beachler, Chair

By this time, all the clubs that entered the All American competition for 2004 should have received their books, the CFMS judging sheets, and the AFMS judging sheets. As noted in last month's newsletter, the California clubs did very well in the judging.

Now, it is time to start collecting and assembling data and information depicting the year 2004 "Life of Your Club".

The 2005 CFMS Show will be held in June so the due date for club report binders will be March 15, 2005. Let's show the AFMS that the CFMS clubs are very active!


The Jury of Awards Committee requests all the CFMS clubs send candidate nominations for CFMS honoree to the AFMS Scholarship, include a summary describing your choice. Please send by the end of October to Colleen McGann, Lois Allmon, or Marion Roberts so selection can he made at the Fall Meeting. The candidates should he active members who have worked to further the earth sciences in our communities. Isabella Burns is the CFMS honoree for 2004.

Every year the regions select their honoree for the AFMS Scholarship Fund distribution. The honorees will choose a college to receive the scholarships and the colleges choose the student(s). The AFMS scholarships are awarded to graduate students $2,000 for two years and CFMS Scholarship Fund distributions are awarded to undergraduate students.


By John Stockwell, CFMS Field Trip Leader North

Thundereggs from the Lucky Strike Mine and from White Fir Spring were collected in abundance. There were five of us on the 28th at the Mine. Many of the eggs were attractively banded, showing much good red color and some moss. Cindy and Kop welcomed the group with a thoughtfully prepared lunch. Afterwards we visited the Fallen Tree Claim, again finding eggs numerous, many containing a variety of zeolites along with the agate and opalite. On the 29th there were nine participants collecting good brown, yellow, and white jasper eggs, then moving to another area of the deposit for agate eggs. Participants came from the Napa, Southern Nevada, Mahn, Peninsula, and Mother Lode clubs. A rockhound from Iowa joined the group as a guest.

Participants enjoyed visiting with Judy Elkins at her shop in Prineville. "Killer Greens" from the Ochocos are the current rage. Also of great interest are the new cristobalite "eggs" in obsidian from Cougar Mountain in Siskiyou County, California. Some participants went on Prineville Pow Wow trips to Maury Mountain (moss agate) and the McDonald Ranch (wood) which preceded the Ochoco trips. In the late afternoon of the 29th an intense thunderstorm moved through the area, with no measureable interval between lightning bolt and loud thunder. Camping had to be foregone that night in favor of motels, and the field trip set for the following morning on the first day of the Madras Pow Wow was delayed.


By Bob Fitzpatrick, CFMS Field Trip Leader South

I started a new business selling on Ebay, that is why I have not been doing any rockhounding for the last few weeks, plus it is too hot. Also getting ready for my 3 week rockhounding trip to Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and then back home just in time to start selling at the Devore tailgate show Sept.17 - 19th. and the Joshua Tree tailgate show Sept 29 - Oct. 3rd. and hope to sell at the Valley Prospectors tailgate show Oct. 22 - 24th.

I am planning to lead a number of great field trips for the CFMS out in to the desert as soon as it cools down.

Nutrition, things you should think about.

By Chuck McKie CFMS Safety Chairman 2004
via the Fairfield, CA, Northbay Wellspring Newsletter Spring 2000

Yes, You Really Can Have "Iron Poor Blood"

If you frequently feel fatigued and have trouble concentrating, you may not have enough iron in your diet, and you could be anemic.

  • Anemia is a condition in which circulating red blood cells, hemoglobin or the volume of packed red blood cells are reduced. Symptoms of anemia include pale skin and fingernail beds, weakness, vertigo and headaches.
  • NorthBay Healthcare Clinical Dietitian Kathleen Shafer says, "Iron deficient anemia seems to be the most common type and is often a result of chronic blood loss."
  • Shafer says women are at greater risk for iron deficiency than men are. "They need almost twice as much iron each day. Iron deficiency can also lead to suppressed immunity, which increases susceptibility to infections and disease."
  • "Premenopausal women should eat several servings each day of foods rich in iron, including dark green, leafy vegetables, legumes, and prunes. Extra-lean meat is a good source of iron since it contains a type of iron called 'heme' iron that is well-absorbed."
  • Shafer also suggests the following high-iron diet guidelines:
  • Include at least four iron rich foods per day in your meal plan. Good sources of iron are spinach, peas, and legumes, liver, beef, instant breakfast mix, shrimp, clams, oysters and tofu. Include a food or beverage high in Vitamin C at every meal to increase iron absorption like citrus fruits and juices, strawberries, cantaloupe, mango, kiwi fruit, cabbage, tomatoes, green pepper, broccoli, brussel sprouts.
  • Select cereals, breads and pasta products with labels that read "whole grain, enriched, fortified or essential vitamins and minerals added."
  • If your doctor advises you to take an iron supplement, take it with food or beverage high in Vitamin C.
  • Avoid drinking tea or coffee with meals. They can decrease iron absorption.
  • Bad Nutrition Can Open The Door To Cancer

Eat To Protect Your Eyes

  • Adding anti-oxidants to your diet may help prevent cataracts. Eat plenty of citrus fruits, tomatoes, orange and yellow-green vegetables, potatoes, cabbage and onions.
  • At least 35 percent of all cancers are nutritionally linked, according to the National Cancer Institute. Your diet is second only to smoking as the most important risk factor you can control.
  • NorthBay Healthcare Clinical Dietitian Kathleen Shafer suggests a varied diet to reduce your cancer risk. "The recommendation is to eat five servings of fruit or vegetables daily and to lean toward foods that are high in fiber such as whole grains. Vitamins should be considered a supplement to a healthy diet and not a substitution. A pill can't give you all the nutrients that a well-balanced diet can."
  • Shafer also suggests people limit their intake of cured meats, hot dogs, bacon, and high-fat and fried foods. "You don't need to stay away from red meat, just choose leaner cuts,"

The American Cancer Society offers these nutritional guidelines: Limit intake of high-fat foods, particularly from animal sources. Studies show people who eat a high-fat diet have increased rates of cancers of the colon and rectum, prostate, and endometrium. People who eat a high-fat diet are often heavier and tend to eat fewer fruits and vegetables, which also increases the risk of cancer.

Eat your fruits and vegetables. Many studies show that increased consumption of fruits, vegetables and whole grains reduces the risk for cancers of the gastrointestinal and respiratory tracts. Plant foods contain beneficial vitamins, minerals. fibers and other cancer protective substances such as carotenoids, Ilavonoids, terpenes, sterols, indoles and phenols.

Be physically active and maintain a healthy weight. By controlling your weight, you can reduce the risk of cancers of the colon, rectum, prostate, endometrium, and kidney. Through its effects on hormone levels, physical activity may reduce risk of prostate and breast cancers. Physical activity also stimulates bowel movement, reducing the time that the bowel may be exposed to harmful substances thereby lowering the risk of colon cancer. The American Cancer Society recommends being physically active for 30 minutes or more on most days of the week.

Limit consumption of alcohol. Cancer risk increases with the amount of alcohol consumed. Your risk may start to rise with as few as two drinks a day. Studies indicate that even a few drinks per week increase the risk for breast cancer. A drink is defined as 12 ounces of regular beer, 5 ounces of wine and 1.5 ounces of 80 proof spirits.

  • Seniors Need Fewer Calories But More Nutrients While nutrition is important at any age, following a healthy diet when you are in your 60s or older is an even more important factor in maintaining or improving your health.
  • Your metabolic rate slows down as you age and your caloric needs decrease by 25 percent," according to Sheila DiGasper, a NorlhBay Healthcare registered dietitian who counsels geriatric patients. "However, even though seniors' needs are lower, surveys show that a fourth of those over age 65 still become malnourished."
  • While the quantity of food needed by seniors is less, nutritional needs may actually increase according to a recent study. Nutrition can play a pivotal role in helping older Americans maintain strong immune systems and control chronic diseases.
  • "Eating daily from the five food groups is the best way to stay healthy," DiGasper says. "Seniors need to eat fewer highcalorie foods and more foods that are rich in vitamins, minerals and fiber. While seniors need a multi-vitamin pill and calcium supplement, it's a mistake to think taking a vitamin pill can make up for a poor diet."
  • Many older people have difficulty eating well for reasons that have little to do with their knowledge of nutrition. For example, losing teeth may prevent a senior from eating a lot of fiber and fruits because he or she can't chew well. If vision is impaired, a senior may not eat what he or she can't see. Strokes can affect a person's ability to swallow and arthritis can make it hard to cook. Some medications can affect a senior's appetite or alter foods' taste or smell.
  • Living on a fixed income can also influence diet, according to DiGasper, because less nutritious food is cheaper.
  • "I have seniors tell me they live on McDonald's 29-cent hamburgers, and I advise them that this is not good nutrition," she says.
  • Altered mental health can also impair nutrition. A person suffering from depression is less likely to have a good appetite, and those with dementia often can't remember to eat regularly. Those who live alone may not eat enough simply because they tire of eating alone.
  • Dehydration is another condition that can affect senior's nutrition and health. As people age they lose their sense of thirst. A loss of liquid can lead to constipation and an extra strain on kidneys.
  • "Fluids are at the very bottom of the food guide pyramid for older adults," DiGasper adds. "Drink eight glasses of fluid a day, counting water, soups, decal coffee and tea, and other decaffeinated drinks."
  • There are several warning signs to indicate a senior is malnourished. The most obvious one is a decrease in weight. The person may seem weak and feel tired. Vitamin deficiencies can show up as dry, scaly skin, mouth and skin sores, and a swollen, red tongue.
  • Unfortunately, many of these symptoms can be attributed to other diseases and it is hard to associate these symptoms with an actual deficiency without running medical tests.
  • "It's never too late to turn your diet around," DiGasper says. "If you think your diet, or the diet of a senior you know, could be improved, talk to your doctor or consult a dietitian."


By Cal Cason, ESS Chair

It seems to be the lull between the storms, what with Camp Paradise in progress, or completed, we are heavy into planning for Zzyzx, April 3 - 10, 2005. In that it is our 20th anniversary we would like to make it a memorable one. Hopes were high that we could announce a two week program, but unfortunately, that is not to be. Thanks to Isabel Burns for her assistance in contacting the Director at Fullerton on our behalf, but it was to no avail. It seems that Spring is the most used Season for studies in that area, and most time slots are booked well in advance. It is a Desert Studies Center so the extended Session seems very unlikely under present conditions. We could have the Center in September or January, but the weather is not always cooperative during those periods, and would not benefit the program. So we will continue as we have in the past.

Elsewhere in this newsletter you will find an application form ( Zzyzx somewhat changed), please share it with your club members, and urge them to register early to ensure their enrollment is accepted.

Next month we will release the Registration Forms for Camp Paradise 9/11-16 & 9/18-24, 2005. Again there will be changes. But feel that Early Announcements and Registration will enable the Committee to better adjust the programs to meet the wishes of the Participants who support them. Also for those people who do not feel they can attend a full session, we will arrange a prorated schedule to make accommodations for them.

Not much else I can think of at the moment that needs to be addressed, so I will say on behalf of the committee, thank you for your past support, and we will try to adjust the programs to meet more of the needs and desires of the members of CFMS.


By Jim Brace-Thompson, CFMS & AFMS Juniors Activities Chair

It's official! Thanks to the generosity of the AFMS board, which has approved funding, we now have a merit badge program for our clubs with youth members enrolled in the AFMS Future Rockhounds of America (FRA). I've placed an order with a badge manufacturer, and by September, we should have a supply of badges to begin awarding to kids. To enroll your club's kids, contact me (call 805-659-3577 or email jbraceth@adelphia.net). All you need is a group of kids up to the age of 18, a sponsor, a name, and an application to FRA. Your group must be a member of your regional Federation, either through a sponsoring club or through an independent application into your local Federation. The number of youth is not important: you can have as few as 1 or 2 and as many as you can handle.

The new program consists of an FRA membership badge, 9 merit badges, and a `Rockhound Badge' that will go to youth members who earn 6 of the 9 merit badges. A 100-page guidebook describes and outlines requirements for each of the 9 badges. There are 52 activities, in all, to choose from, or about a half dozen activities per badge, with kids required to complete only 3 activities to earn any particular badge. Checklists in the guidebook make it easy for youth leaders to sign off on activities as a junior member completes them. In addition, brief back-up pages and suggestions help leaders guide their kids through each activity. The guidebook is available in both hardcopy format (photo-copied) and on the AFMS website (www.amfed.org). To save costs to the program, which is being provided entirely free to members, we encourage you to download a copy from the web. If this is not possible, contact me for a copy.

A few words of advice to anyone implementing this program with your club's kids...

First, don't feel obliged to do each activity precisely as described in the guidebook. You should adapt each activity and adjust its level to best match the ages and abilities of the kids within your club.

Second, try to do as many of the activities as possible as group projects.

Third, involve your adult club members in helping to oversee activities and to provide supplies and materials, and involve your kids in selecting the activities they want to try.

Its my hope that this program proves useful and successful. To help ensure its success, I welcome feedback from youth leaders and kids alike on the existing activities and suggestions for creating new activities that will help us all learn and grown while •   as always •   having fun!


Land Rights Network, American Land Rights Association
PO Box 400 - Battle Ground, WA 98604
Phone: 360-687-3087 - Fax: 360-687-2973
E-mail: alra@landrights.org or alra@governance.net , Web Address: http:/www.landrights.org
Legislative Office: 507 Seward Square SE - Washington, DC 20003

Urgent Action Required - Roadless Rule
Act today to save access to your National Forests. Help stop the Clinton Roadless Land Grab (No, its not over) Over one million acres of private land are in the Clinton Roadless Areas. Support private property owners, hunters, fishermen, ranchers, miners, foresters, rock hounds, off-highway vehicle users and the general public wholikes to go exploring on the ever decreasing network of roads within the National Forests. Don't allow special interests to win in this comment period. Your enemies are doing all they can to target your use of the forests.

You must deluge the Forest Service with comments supporting the new Bush Administration Roadless Rule.We've made it easy for you.
Fill out and tax or e-mail to the Forest Service the Comment Questionnaire below You can go to www.landrights.orgto download a fully formatted version of the Comment Questionnaire. Makecopies and hand them out to your friends. You may also get a complete copy of the Forest Service new Roadless Rule Federal Register Notice at www.landrights.org

Fax or US Mail Deadline Tuesday, September 14th. 2004

Roadless Alert -- Roadless Area Management Comment Questionnaire
To All Multiple-Use and Private Property Allies:

The U.S. Forest Service needs to hear from you today on roadless area management! It is very important to you that you send comments. In law, it is called "laches" or sleeping on your rights. If you fail to comment on theseproposed Forest Service Roadless Regulations, you could lose some future legal rights.

Background -

The new roadless regulations proposed by the Bush Administration in July provide an improved approach tomanaging the millions of roadless acres in the U.S. The earlier roadless rule, issued in the closing days of the Clinton Administration, was deeply flawed: boundaries were inaccurate: access to state, county, and private in-holdings was significantly restricted: local forest planning was ignored; and management activities to addressforest health were curtailed.

The newly proposed rule goes a long way to fixing many of these flaws. primarily by bringing state, county, andlocal input back into the process of managing national forest land, without the federal government ceding final oversight of the land. It gives Governors an opportunity to work with the U.S. Forest Service to establish management requirements for National Forest System inventoried roadless areas within their States.

Your comments on the proposal roadless rule are critical to ensuring local input to management of roadless areas on our national forests. Please help by filling out and e-mailingor faxing hack to the Forest Service theComment Questionnaire below.

Please note that multiple-use and private property advocates AGREE with all the statements below but you do nothave to. Please circle whether you AGREE, DISAGREE, OR HAVE NO OPINIION on each statement.

Below the statements there is a place for you to write in any personal comments you may have. You make the comment questionnaire far more valuable with your personal comments. Thank you.

Content Analysis Team, USDA - Forest Service, Attention: Roadless State Petitions P.O. Box 221090, Salt Lake City, Utah 84122. Fax to: (801) 517-1014. , E-mail: statepetitionroadless@fs.fed.us
Dear Chief Bosworth:

RE: Proposed Rulemaking - Special Areas; State Petitions for Inventoried Roadless Area Management, 69 Fed. Reg. 42636 (July 16, 2004)

On July 16, 2004, the Forest Service proposed a new roadless area regulation that is intended to replace the 2001 rule. I support the proposal, but have a number of suggestions for consideration in the final regulation. The following contains my section specific comments and recommendations in order of priority:

  1. I support the Forest Service's efforts to fix the fatal flaws in the 2001 Roadless Area Conservation Rule. This rule is the product of a deeply flawed NEPA process, which was conducted without adequate or accurate information about the affected areas, and is contrary to the agency's legal authority.

  2. The process that created the 2001 Roadless Area Conservation Rule ignored substantive concerns raised by the public and by local, State, and Federal elected officials.

  3. The proposed regulation in Section 294.11 would retain the definition of "inventoried roadless areas" contained in the January 2001 Roadless Rule. This regulation defines these areas as identified on the maps in the Final Environmental Impact Statement and "any subsequent update or revision of those maps." However, neither the 2001 regulation nor the proposed revision provides any mechanism to accomplish these subsequent updates or revisions.
    Inventoried roadless areas, and the maps depicting them, were developed by the Forest Service under the auspices of the Wilderness Act during the 1970's, well over 20 years. Their purpose was to identify areas that met the minimum requirements for consideration as "wilderness" by Congress and I recommend that the final regulations require every national forest to conduct a boundary review within 18 months of the effective date. This review would be conducted either as part of the process to address a Governor's petition or as a separate action if no petition were filed.

  4. In Section 294 .15, state-specific rulemaking, the final rule must ensure consideration of local concerns by complying with the forest management laws. I believe it is vitally important to manage roadless areas through the applicable forest management plan, as required by the national forest management laws. Compliance with these laws will also ensure that local conditions are considered and local concerns are addressed. However, section 294.15 merely prescribes a rulemaking to address a Governor's petition that has been accepted by the Secretary. Neither the proposed regulation nor the preamble ever explains or requires how this rulemaking would be coordinated with the applicable forest management plan. Thus, the proposal seems to suffer from the same fatal flaw as the January 2001 Roadless Law - no compliance with the national forest management laws and no consideration of local issues. Accordingly, I urge the Forest Service to incorporate into the final regulations a requirement that if a Governor's petition would change the management of any roadless area from that set out in the applicable forest plan, that plan must be amended or revised before the rulemaking comes into effect.

  5. Under Section 294.12, state petitions, I support the opportunity for a Governor of a State to petition the Secretary to promulgate regulations establishing management requirements for all or any portion of inventoried roadless areas in their state. As noted above however, we believe that the actual decision regarding management of these areas must be finalized through an amendment or revision of the applicable forest plan. In regards to the proposed time period of 18 months for Governors to develop a petition, we believe that 18 months is sufficient, given the recommendations immediately below.
    I request that the final rule provide guidance to Governors in this section of the regulation regarding the process by which Governor's may develop their petition. We recommend that the final rule provide guidance to Governors that before submitting a petition they should:
    1. seek professional assistance from their State Forester,
    2. consider current and future wildfire risk conditions,
    3. review the management decisions for the roadless areas set out in applicable forest plans,
    4. consider needs for access to state and private lands,
    5. carefully look at each individual roadless area and consider local conditions of these areas,
    6. adjust boundaries to excluded already roaded areas,
    7. consult with local counties and town officials,
    8. consider social and economic impacts of their proposals,
    9. document the gain or loss in access to national forests by their proposal.

    The preamble indicates that the agency will consider if any additional consultation will be needed with State and local governments prior to adopting the rule. We highly recommend that such consultation take place in order to develop the guidance suggested above for the final rule.

  1. The preamble to the rule states that the Secretary is considering the establishment of a national advisory committee to provide consultation on the implementation of the State-specific rulemaking process, review petitions, and provide advice on appropriate NEPA documentation and the decision of the Secretary regarding the petition. I am concerned about the make up of this conunittee as well as the scope of their responsibilities. I do not believe that this committee is essential to the proposed process and could become a harrier to resolving not just the disposition of the inventoried roadless areas. No advisory committee should be established in the final rule because it is likely to be politically influenced and scientifically compromised. AGREE DISAGREE NO OPINION

  2. In conclusion, I support the proposed rule ingeneral, but as noted above, request that the agency consider a number of changes and additions to a final rule in order to assure that the rule is legally sufficient and capable of being implemented by the Forest Service, Governor's and others involved in the proposed processes. h is vitally important that the old. Flawed boundaries of inventoried roadless areas be replaced with land allocations and management requirements that reflect accurate conditions on the ground and decisions reflected in forest plans. The forest health crisis on federal lands requires that on-the-ground managers have forest plans that guide projects and programs to restore and maintain forest health and provide for appropriate multiple uses of the national forests.

Your personal comments here will make this document more valuable. Add additional pages if necessary. To validate your comments please fill in completely (PRINT or TYPE) and be sure to sign. Signature: Name: Address: Town: State: Zip: Phone: Fax: E-mail.

Do not fail to send this comment questionnaire even if it is late. They are often counted late.

Don't forget. You may read and download the complete new Bush Administration Roadless Rule proposal at www.landrights.org. You may also download a fully formatted pdf file of the Comment Questionnaire.
Make copies and hand the out to your friends. This is a big deal and worth the effort Don't let the Clinton land grabbers win at this late date.
Mail, Fax or E-mail Deadline for comments-Tuesday, September 14th, 2004
It is critical to get as many comments in to the Forest Service as possible.